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	<title>Comments on: Flash Wins! Hoo-freaking-ray! Adobe are so awesome!</title>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1936</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big thing we know were we legally stand implementing duplicate to flash or java.

Ok only the closed source binary having to use it not great solution.

Silverlight/.Net  there is no open statement for anyone deciding to duplicate to current day version.   Only statement on .Net stops at out dated ECMA defines.   Don&#039;t throw stones unless your house is in order.

Flash clones are not good enough yet but they can be legally made all the approvals for that exist.  There are some video codec issues with patents but we do know exactly were we stand on all format flash uses.

Now this review of yours could have gone a bit deeper and found out what video codec the sites were using and if that was the reason play back would not work.

Find me the statement from MS like Adobe on SWF and FLV laying out protection for ever from thier designed stuff.  Of course we cannot expect Adobe to license over stuff they don&#039;t own.

At least the Adobe docs on the formats tell you want you can and cannot use completely.

Lots of development on mono or silverlight is a hot foot waiting to happen until we have that information.  People can only choose there path truly if they have correct information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big thing we know were we legally stand implementing duplicate to flash or java.</p>
<p>Ok only the closed source binary having to use it not great solution.</p>
<p>Silverlight/.Net  there is no open statement for anyone deciding to duplicate to current day version.   Only statement on .Net stops at out dated ECMA defines.   Don&#8217;t throw stones unless your house is in order.</p>
<p>Flash clones are not good enough yet but they can be legally made all the approvals for that exist.  There are some video codec issues with patents but we do know exactly were we stand on all format flash uses.</p>
<p>Now this review of yours could have gone a bit deeper and found out what video codec the sites were using and if that was the reason play back would not work.</p>
<p>Find me the statement from MS like Adobe on SWF and FLV laying out protection for ever from thier designed stuff.  Of course we cannot expect Adobe to license over stuff they don&#8217;t own.</p>
<p>At least the Adobe docs on the formats tell you want you can and cannot use completely.</p>
<p>Lots of development on mono or silverlight is a hot foot waiting to happen until we have that information.  People can only choose there path truly if they have correct information.</p>
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		<title>By: The Betacantrips Travelogue &#187; Flash Wins! Hoo-freaking-ray! Adobe are so awesome!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Betacantrips Travelogue &#187; Flash Wins! Hoo-freaking-ray! Adobe are so awesome!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Planet Debian: an interesting article about the BBC&#8217;s switch from Silverlight to Flash and the Free Software community&#8217;s response. The money quote:  What annoys me here isn&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Planet Debian: an interesting article about the BBC&#8217;s switch from Silverlight to Flash and the Free Software community&#8217;s response. The money quote:  What annoys me here isn&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1818&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sindhudweep Sarkar&lt;/a&gt;, compiled a backport of the Karmic package; 0 change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1818" rel="nofollow">@Sindhudweep Sarkar</a>, compiled a backport of the Karmic package; 0 change</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Matthew&lt;/a&gt;, HTML5 has no standardised codec choice, and of the four browser engines with HTML5 support, there is no codec supported by all four. Welcome to the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1792" rel="nofollow">@Matthew</a>, HTML5 has no standardised codec choice, and of the four browser engines with HTML5 support, there is no codec supported by all four. Welcome to the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Sindhudweep Sarkar</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>Sindhudweep Sarkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you test to see if you hit the same &quot;blank&quot; but invoked issues with gnash 0.8.6 which will be released in karmic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you test to see if you hit the same &#8220;blank&#8221; but invoked issues with gnash 0.8.6 which will be released in karmic?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It starts with you -- post your videos in an open and free format and avoid the websites that require Flash Player.  There are plenty of websites that use Ogg Theora encoding out there, so take your business elsewhere.  Meanwhile, post your own video content in exclusively open web formats and encourage your friends and your colleagues to view it.  HTML5 Open Video is here, and we can walk boldly into an open web video world, if we want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It starts with you &#8212; post your videos in an open and free format and avoid the websites that require Flash Player.  There are plenty of websites that use Ogg Theora encoding out there, so take your business elsewhere.  Meanwhile, post your own video content in exclusively open web formats and encourage your friends and your colleagues to view it.  HTML5 Open Video is here, and we can walk boldly into an open web video world, if we want it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey Shchekin</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1779</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrey Shchekin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1734&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ukblacknight&lt;/a&gt;, I would correct a bit your bus analogy. Yes, Bus A has an open design (mechanically), where as Bus B has a closed design. But both buses physically are near the bus stop, and most people at the bus stop love open design because they have varying degrees of mechanical skills themselves.

So there is a bus stop full of mechanics, but they still choose the working bus instead of fixing the broken one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1734" rel="nofollow">@ukblacknight</a>, I would correct a bit your bus analogy. Yes, Bus A has an open design (mechanically), where as Bus B has a closed design. But both buses physically are near the bus stop, and most people at the bus stop love open design because they have varying degrees of mechanical skills themselves.</p>
<p>So there is a bus stop full of mechanics, but they still choose the working bus instead of fixing the broken one.</p>
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		<title>By: Glyn Moody (glynmoody) 's status on Tuesday, 22-Sep-09 16:10:51 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glyn Moody (glynmoody) 's status on Tuesday, 22-Sep-09 16:10:51 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/        a few seconds ago  from  Gwibber [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  <a href="http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/" rel="nofollow">http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/</a>        a few seconds ago  from  Gwibber [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Roriz</title>
		<link>http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/199/comment-page-1/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Roriz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1768&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@directhex&lt;/a&gt;, Thats sucks :D but Like you said we can do something about it. ;)
Offtopic:
And btw I&#039;m thinking on learning C# (java here ~_~) since it seems that many companies make their product on .net/c#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1768" rel="nofollow">@directhex</a>, Thats sucks :D but Like you said we can do something about it. ;)<br />
Offtopic:<br />
And btw I&#8217;m thinking on learning C# (java here ~_~) since it seems that many companies make their product on .net/c#</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
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		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1767&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcos Roriz&lt;/a&gt;, Google Book Downloader uses the WPF toolkit for its GUI, which is not implemented by Mono. ComicRack appears to do odd things - it starts, then quits silently without any clues as to why it&#039;s not &quot;finished&quot; starting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1767" rel="nofollow">@Marcos Roriz</a>, Google Book Downloader uses the WPF toolkit for its GUI, which is not implemented by Mono. ComicRack appears to do odd things &#8211; it starts, then quits silently without any clues as to why it&#8217;s not &#8220;finished&#8221; starting</p>
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